My friend just gave me the AOL ‘hang up,’ as she signed off mid conversation. All I did was try to explain why some people choose not to align themselves with feminists, a word with a dirty connotation, yet can still support civil rights and equality.
Now, I present to you, a conversation gone bad …
chilidonkey: you dirty feminazi
Anonymous: no
Anonymous: like
Anonymous: when people say they aren’t feminists
Anonymous: i am amazed
chilidonkey: why, dont play that game
Anonymous: i'm like "oh, so you dont think men and women are equal"
chilidonkey: thats not just it and you know it
Anonymous: and they're like "well, of course i do"
Anonymous: and i'm like "ok, you're a feminist."
Anonymous: i dont know why its a dirty word
Anonymous: its stupid
chilidonkey: there is a negative connotation that goes along with feminism, as well as a degree of political activeness and social consciousness
Anonymous: yeah and i dont know why
chilidonkey: you can agree with equality, but no be politically active
chilidonkey: *not
Anonymous: yeah
Anonymous: you can be a feminist and not be politically active
chilidonkey: and in that regard, youre not a feminist
chilidonkey: i disagree
Anonymous: but i am politically active
chilidonkey: and, feminists hold the bogus idea that idea of men and women being different is that of a social construction ... which is friggin retarded. there certainly are biological differences
chilidonkey: also, as a whole, feminists are pro-choice, but a woman can choose to believe in equality and pro-life, and would therefore not want to align herself with feminists
Anonymous: read this
Anonymous:
FEMINISM
We get so mad when some nitwit says she’s not a feminist. I guess if you’re cool with being raped all the time and having no options in life other than being a baby machine or a prostitute, then yeah, you’re probably not a feminist. But if you enjoy birth-control pills and not being beaten up by your owner—I mean, husband—then you pretty much are one so you may as well stop shaving your legs right now. Just kidding. Somewhere along the way feminism got a bad rep, but it doesn’t mean you have to be a sourpuss or that you can’t write tongue-in-cheek articles riddled with silly gender stereotypes. All it means is that you don’t hate yourself.
Anonymous: feminism is about choice
chilidonkey: that is not what feminism means
chilidonkey: lol
Anonymous: and if you choose to not have abortions
Anonymous: then you are a feminist
Anonymous: who are you to define it?
Anonymous: and yes that is what feminism is about
Anonymous: feminism is not a dirty word
chilidonkey: because i dont have a vagina i cant pass judgment? and not to mention, some radical feminists believe the world should have dramatically fewer men
chilidonkey: thats a swell, real equal notion
Anonymous: some libertarians think we should abolish UNICEF
chilidonkey: yeah, it wastes money
chilidonkey: lol
chilidonkey: but so does our government and countless other organizations
Anonymous:: i'm done
Anonymous: you're too closed minded
chilidonkey: unicef is low on my hate list
chilidonkey: im just saying
Anonymous: no i cant talk to you about feminism
chilidonkey: feminism is considered a dirty word for no good reason, but if you choose to not align yourself with the word because of the negative connotations and such, it doesnt mean you condone rape
Anonymous: yes it does
chilidonkey: thats being close minded
chilidonkey: omg
Anonymous: if you dont want to align yourself with feminism
Anonymous: then you are an anti-feminist
Anonymous: which is a movement
Anonymous: but those girls need to just own up to it
Anonymous: and say "i'm an anti-feminist"
Anonymous: not "i'm not a feminist because i dont want boys to think im' a lesbo"
Anonymous: what girl doesnt align herself with feminism? i'll talk some sense into her
chilidonkey: okay, im an anti-feminist, but i believe in civil liberties and equality, happy
Anonymous: no i'm not
Anonymous: that's disgusting
chilidonkey: why, i dont believe there should be less men in the world
Anonymous: 1) that comment makes you look really stupid
chilidonkey: so i cant align myself with radical fems
Anonymous: because civil liberties and equality is what the movement is based on
Anonymous: 2) it makes you look like a bigot
Anonymous: and 3) i'm not down with stupid bigots
Anonymous: peace
chilidonkey: i have no issue with liberal feminism, thats what i just said essentially
Anonymous signed off at 9:42:43 AM.
Monday, July 02, 2007
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[15:57] zbplot: you know how those girls are being chased
[15:57] zbplot: after her arm is broken
[15:57] icameasajosh: yeah
[15:57] zbplot: and they run behind a dumpster
[15:57] icameasajosh: yup
[15:58] zbplot: and the bum behind the dumpster tells them that they owe him $50
[15:58] zbplot: what is his profession
[15:58] icameasajosh: gettin fucked in the asshole for money
[15:58] zbplot: ! thank you!
[15:58] icameasajosh: heh you're welcome
[15:58] zbplot: underage matt thought he was a drug dealer
[15:58] zbplot: and i was like "you are stupid"
[15:58] icameasajosh: what? is he that naive?
[15:58] zbplot: yes.
kisses!
I hate to say it, but you were right. I was lame enough to go back and rewatch that part and realized I must not have been too attentive the first time, beacause I missed the blatent audio edited, "Zip."
Oh ... and taco-flavored kisses.
the best is your reasoning -
"but he said $50. that's how much you pay for weed"
"no, that's how much you pay for weed. and there is no way a white guy would go that far out of his way for a bag of pot."
ok matt, i've thought about it, and i need to be more open minded. and i need to be more accepting of other beliefs, such as rapism, or in today's terms, "neo-rapism." i'm glad we had this discussion.
Oh, was that my only reasoning? I believe there was the comment, "What? You want some dope?" And I didn't realize I condoned rape, but not only that, I was unaware I began the belief of neo-rapism.
no i mean, its ok. i identify with the feminism movement and you identify with rapism movement. we just disagree.
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